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Tuesday, January 24, 2012

Quoting Your Characters

My amazing friend, Elizabeth is editing my book.  I say amazing because she has suggested some sentence rewrites and caught incorrect punctuation, but more importantly, she found a major blooper in my story - the grammar and punctuation with quotations.  Some are right, some are wrong, and some have correct and incorrect properties.  I guess this shows just how involved an author can get in his/her own book, missing errors that stand out like a cow in a pasture of sheep.

It is critical to use correct grammar and punctuation so the reader can understand the story and can read without interruptions.  It is frustrating to read, re-read, and sometimes read again a sentence that makes no sense. 

Thank you, thank you, thank you, Elizabeth! 

I am elated that she is helping me find these problems.  I can't tell you how many times I've been over my book, not seeing these.  My Word auto correct came up with 'fragment' on many, making no sense to me until Elizabeth pointed out the problem.  Why couldn't Word explain it better?

Thus, I figured it would be good to review quotations with proper grammar and punctuation.  There are many wonderful sources on the internet.  Later, I will list Elizabeth's favorite sources too.

Quotation marks as used in the U.S.A., "   ", are  to set off quoted or spoken language and titles that do not normally stand by themselves.  We will only look at spoken language by our characters. 

I have searched the web for correct examples.  Here they are:

I said, "Well."

"Well," I said. 

I cried, "Go!"  

Stop saying "like"!

The first question on the quiz was "Who wrote 'The Raven'?" 

I can never pronounce twelfths.  OR  I can never pronounce "twelfths." 

 "Diane," Eric asked, "have you finished reading that book yet?"

"Oh, my God!" she exclaimed. "You're never going to believe this!" 

 (Indirect):   The professor said that I will lose ten points if I turn the project in late. 

(Direct):   The professor said, "You will lose ten points if you turn the project in late." He answered yes.  OR He answered, "Yes."  although the first is the preferred.

 Mr. Johnson, who was working in his field that morning, said, "The alien spaceship appeared right before my own two eyes."

"Mary is trying hard in school this semester," her father said. 


Use quotations marks for:

  • Titles of short or minor works
  • Songs
  • Short Stories
  • Essays
  • Short Poems
  • One Act Plays
  • Other literary works shorter than a three act play or complete book
  • Titles of sections from longer works
  • Chapters in books
  • Articles in newspapers, magazines, or journals
  • Episodes of television and radio series

 Underlining or italics are used for the titles of long pieces or works that contain smaller sections.


Use quotation marks with these titles:
  • Songs
  • Short stories
  • Short poems
  • One-act plays
  • Essays
  • Chapters in books
  • Articles in newspapers
  • Magazine articles
  • Journal articles
  • Periodicals
  • Television or radio episodes
  • Short literary works
  • Theses
  • Dissertations
  • Unpublished lectures, speeches and papers
  • Manuscripts
  • Reports
  • Official titles of art exhibits 
What about if your character is thinking?

1. Thought written in first person present, italicized, tagged
Mary closed her eyes and lifted her face to the sun. This summer has been so perfect, she thought. I don't want it ever to end.
2. Thought written in first person present, italicized, not tagged
Mary closed her eyes and lifted her face to the sun. This summer has been so perfect. I don't want it ever to end.
3. Thought written in first person present, not italicized, tagged
Mary closed her eyes and lifted her face to the sun. This summer has been so perfect, she thought. I don't want it ever to end.
4. Thought written in first person present, not italicized, not tagged
Mary closed her eyes and lifted her face to the sun. This summer has been so perfect. I don't want it ever to end.
5. Thought written in third person past, not italicized, tagged
Mary closed her eyes and lifted her face to the sun. This summer had been so perfect, she thought. She didn't want it ever to end.
6. Thought written in third person past, not italicized, not tagged
Mary closed her eyes and lifted her face to the sun. This summer had been so perfect. She didn't want it ever to end.

So which of these possibilities are correct and which are incorrect?
You will find examples of all of the above in published fiction, so in a sense it is a matter of personal choice. The only hard and fast rule that exists is to be consistent throughout.
Whatever method of presenting internal monologue that you use in the first chapter - first person present and italicized text, for example - you should still be using it in the final chapter.
Readers quickly grow accustomed to whatever conventions you have decided to use, and not sticking to those conventions consistently throughout will only confuse your audience.

  Never use quotation marks around a character's thoughts. The reader will assume the words are being said out loud, and will then have to make an awkward mental shift when they see a "he thought" interior monologue tag rather than a "he said" dialogue tag at the end.

 We can also dispense with using italicized text when the thought is translated into third person past tense. The only point of italics is to make a different voice and tense stand out from the regular voice and tense being used. When both the thought and the text surrounding it are in the same voice and tense there is no need for italics.


I have made a copy of this to refer to so I don't head off in a different direction again.

If you are interested in using Elizabeth's services, here is her information.  I highly recommend her.

Elizabeth uses The Elements of Style, The Associated Press Stylebook, & The Chicago Manual of Style.  She charges $25 an hour whether it is writing or editing/proofreading.

Here is her website:  http://desertgirlmedia.com/  

I highly recommend her if you want your finished work to be professional.

LHR and PAWS for Success




26 comments:

shelly said...

Donna, is he an editor that looks at everything? Like plot? Character voice?

Donna Yates said...

Oh, yes, Shelly, she does. She covers it all. She's caught other things and corrected them too, but this is the one that bugged me the most, because I should have known better. Thank you for your comment.

The Desert Rocks said...

I always get confused with the question mark and the cap or lower case after it. I've started leaving everything out as in my third example.

"Do you want to go to Spain?" he asked.
or
"Do you want to go to Spain?" He asked, looking across the room into
her blue eyes.
or
"Do you want to go to Spain?"

Wonder what Elizabeth would say?

Barbara said...

I’m sure I must have dozens of cows amongst the sheep in the pasture that is my blog! Really interesting and helpful post, thank you.

Donna Yates said...

The Desert Rocks, I think she will drop by since she reads my blog, and we'll see what she says. That's one that bugs me too, and it is one that I sometimes get right and sometimes get wrong. Wikipedia says British grammar is more logical than ours. I can believe that! Thanks for your comment.
Barbara, you sweet person, I've never noticed a mistake on your blog. Of course, I enjoy your blog so much. Thanks for your comment.

Kelly Hashway said...

Being a former Language Arts teacher really helps the writer in me. ;) I love grammar!

Donna Yates said...

Kelly, what a great gift to have! Well, it shows in your writing, that's for sure. Thank you for your comment.

Joleene Naylor said...

Great way to lay it out! :) I've noticed when reading blogs or doing beta/editing that punctuating speech often causes all kind of problems for writers.

Donna Yates said...

Thank you for your comment, Joleene. I think it's because when we think, we don't see grammar and punctuation. lol I must retrain myself and think this way.

Pk Hrezo said...

I love italics! So bad at overusing them. Good for you having such a helpful CP. I treasure mine!!

Donna Yates said...

Pk, thank you for commenting. It is touch as a writer whose mind is dreaming the stories, to stop and pay attention to grammar rules, no matter how well we know them. I'm with you. Love those italics.

Jess Haight said...

Excellent post! My co-author is a teacher and has helped reteach me some grammar lessons. Of course, every now and then we both make mistakes. It is so hard to edit your own work. I loved reviewing these rules- quotes can be tricky! Thanks for sharing!

Donna Yates said...

Jess, thanks for your comment. I forget them from time to time too. I think when we write, we so want to get that idea down. How nice to have a co-author that is a teacher!

Lena Winfrey Seder said...

Donna,

Great and beneficial blog! And indeed Elizabeth is really skilled. I'm so glad that as a former English teacher that I find editing comes naturally to me. Even editors need editors, and the hardest thing to do is to edit yourself, for some reason! Thanks for the information as well. Take care!

Donna Yates said...

Lena, thank you for your comment. You are right. It is so difficult to edit your own work.

fOIS In The City said...

You have begun to get to the nuts and bolts of your work. That's where all the fun begins. It is tht fine tuning, that eye-ball editing that smoothes out all the rough spots and leaves the reader to enjoy the story!!

I ofen have to go back two or three times before I am satisfied tht I've found all the glitches.

Great post, Donna. Thanks :)

Claudine G. said...

Very grateful for the reminders on Grammar. Especially thankful for the link to Elizabeth's service! (I shall keep her in mind because all writers need fresh, meticulous eyes.) Thanks for this post, Donna.

Elizabeth Maginnis said...

Eve, use your first example. As I've told Donna, my high school English teachers stressed and stressed and stressed again the importance of good grammar and vocabulary. One teacher particularly disliked the word "very" as overused and unimaginative. Lord, how I hated learning vocabulary, but boy, I'm so thankful for those lessons now!

Donna Yates said...

Florence, thank you for your comment. I must thank you also for being the first one to catch many of my mistakes.
Claudine, thank you for your comment. Elizabeth is a wonderful asset to know. I've seen some of your work, though, and it's perfect.
Elizabeth, thank you for your comment. I must thank you so much for all the help you're giving me and for catching so much that I missed.

Roger Lawrence said...

when my English teacher wasn't slapping me around as they did here in the sixties, he gave me two enduring pointers. If the first part of the phrase is self supporting, ie 'Stop doing that.' Then whatever follows must begin with a cap. However, if it is not, ie 'Well,' said the teacher, 'what did you do at the weekend?' Then the second phrase should begin with a lover case.
'But', he said, 'whatever you do, 'be consistent.'
Good post as always, Donna.

Donna Yates said...

Roger, your teacher was a genius. That's a great way to remember the one thing I get confused on the most. Thank you for your comment.

Jonathan Wilhoit said...

Thanks for sharing this, Donna. It's very good information to have.

Though, I do think that sometimes it's okay as an author to say, "screw the grammar" if the incorrect way of doing things is a better artistic choice.

And then there's people like Cormac McCarthy, who thinks that "there is no reason to blot up the page with weird little marks. If you write properly you shouldn't have to punctuate."

I'm not a complete grammatical heretic like that, but it's still an interesting viewpoint.

Donna Yates said...

Jonathon, thank you for dropping by and leaving a comment. I agree with you - author artistic choice as long as it still reads well. US grammar is very complicated. Interesting theory of Cormac McCarthy, but the reader might get confused.

Jodi Lobozzo Aman said...

This is very helpful. And it felt good that I know these even though I sucked in language Arts in school. Reading incessantly has paid off!!

Donna Yates said...

Jodi, thank you for your comment and for visiting my blog. It's good you do know them.

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